"Do most people have any idea what they're doing on a daily basis? I would say no. I think there is something very liberated in that idea of knowing that people don't have the perfect answer." - Paul Somers

Welcome to the mindful fire podcast, where we explore living mindfully on the path to financial independence and beyond. I'm your host, Adam Coelho. And I'm so glad you're here.

On today's episode, I'm joined by my friend, Paul Summers. Paul and I met seven years ago when I was on a work trip for Google in Australia. As you'll hear in the interview, Paul and I bonded over Portuguese chicken, one of my favorites.

I'm really excited to bring you this conversation with Paul today because Paul has a really interesting way of looking at life. I've always found him to be just a very carefree go with the flow, takes things as they come, type of person. Always very interested in learning, growing, learning from other people's perspectives.

We cover a lot of ground including:
- Paul’s career progression
- How he knew it was time to leave Google
- What Paul is now up to
- What Public value is and why it’s important?
- How there are actually many different types of value beside financial value
- Paul’s thoughts about the epidemic of overstressed and overworked people

This conversation did not disappoint and I hope that you enjoy it.

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